WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.470 --> 00:00:16.289 Arlene Weible : Okay. Well, welcome everybody to our next session. I'm Arlene wible from the state library of Oregon, and I'm a member of the planning committee for the conference. And I'm very pleased to 2 00:00:17.220 --> 00:00:28.290 Arlene Weible : Introduce our next speakers met, both of which I assume if you are involved with the federal depository library program at all. You are familiar with these two and 3 00:00:29.400 --> 00:00:48.240 Arlene Weible : They are Laura Flint and Jamie HAYES, WHO ARE Outreach Librarians at GPO and I found out a interesting fact. They both started at GPO on the same day, about seven years ago. So, and we unlike the FDA LP Academy webinars were able to have 4 00:00:49.650 --> 00:00:59.550 Arlene Weible : A get to see them while they present this time. So thank you very much for joining us today and I'll go ahead and turn it over to Laura. To get started, just one thing. 5 00:01:00.300 --> 00:01:13.380 Arlene Weible : We do. We're going to save questions to the end of the presentations, but feel free to put your questions in chat as we go. And we'll get to them at the end of the set. After they've finished speaking. So go ahead, Laura. 6 00:01:15.270 --> 00:01:25.080 Lara Flint: Thanks, Arlene hello everybody as Charlie said my name floor plans and Jamie Hayes and I are Outreach Librarians at the government publishing office or GPO 7 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:34.680 Lara Flint: And we're going to talk to you today about how everyone can learn to love government documents which I think we both truly believe that anyone can 8 00:01:36.300 --> 00:01:45.810 Lara Flint: Then we're going to start out with a little background about what the GPO and the FDA LP are the federal depository library program in case any of you aren't familiar with it. 9 00:01:46.380 --> 00:01:51.930 Lara Flint: I'm going to talk about getting comfortable with government information and debunking myths, which is part of learning to love it. 10 00:01:52.380 --> 00:02:06.210 Lara Flint: And then Jamie will talk about best practices tips and training. So we're packing a lot into this half hour and I wanted to say just at the beginning that just contact us anytime. If this is all kind of overwhelming. Just talk to us. 11 00:02:08.430 --> 00:02:20.970 Lara Flint: So the GPO and FB LP background, the government publishing office or GPO is a federal agency. It was established in 1861 as the Government Printing Office. So what our agency does is 12 00:02:21.570 --> 00:02:33.510 Lara Flint: Primarily printing and publishing services for federal agencies and for Congress. We also run the superintendent of documents programs. And that's where the FDA LP falls within the agency. 13 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:46.170 Lara Flint: So the FDA LP, the Federal depository library Program was established by Congress to ensure that the American public has access to its government's information so we feel it's really important. What we do all of us. 14 00:02:47.820 --> 00:02:53.220 Lara Flint: The enabling legislation is and 44 United States Code title 44 sections. 15 00:02:55.560 --> 00:03:11.160 Lara Flint: And the FDA LP has been overseen by GPO since 1895 it's actually a government has been sending publications out to libraries circle societies and other places. Since 1813 but it was overseen by some other agencies before us. 16 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:16.200 Lara Flint: And our mission, which again we really believe in is keeping America informed. 17 00:03:18.330 --> 00:03:18.780 Lara Flint: So, 18 00:03:19.980 --> 00:03:24.540 Lara Flint: I really think that part of learning to love government documents is getting comfortable with them. 19 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:32.400 Lara Flint: And you have to debunk these frequent myths that come up maybe before you get really comfortable with them. So these are the mess. I'm going to talk about 20 00:03:33.180 --> 00:03:42.180 Lara Flint: First, the government information isn't important or isn't relevant to my library, but nobody at my library is using it that government information is boring. 21 00:03:42.780 --> 00:03:46.440 Lara Flint: That everything is online. I'm sure you've heard some or all of these before. 22 00:03:47.220 --> 00:03:58.200 Lara Flint: And that government information is intimidating and scary to learn about. So I would just rather not. I'm going to just pass that question off, you know, to somebody else. I'm not gonna, I'm not going to learn this stuff. 23 00:04:00.150 --> 00:04:01.260 Lara Flint: So the first one. 24 00:04:02.430 --> 00:04:08.130 Lara Flint: Is this persistent mess of government information being boring or irrelevant or nobody's using it. 25 00:04:09.330 --> 00:04:22.200 Lara Flint: And I wasn't going to quote Thomas Jefferson at you. And then I realized it was better to quote my mother you so when my sister and I were children. My mom had no patience with us, saying that we were bored that something was boring, she said. 26 00:04:23.220 --> 00:04:32.370 Lara Flint: There's too much to learn too much to talk about too many books to read, you know, she just did not accept I'm bored or this is boring. And that's kind of how I feel about 27 00:04:32.700 --> 00:04:41.340 Lara Flint: Different information I don't accept that it's boring at all, it just covers all topics that comes in all formats. It's fascinating. 28 00:04:42.210 --> 00:05:01.050 Lara Flint: So what I've listed on the slide here is you know just consider if any of your patrons have ever asked you about any of these things. History The Titanic crime, the weather, you know, the hurricane that just happened, food, health care, the environment genealogy comes up. 29 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.630 Lara Flint: Really various government information about all of these topics. 30 00:05:07.530 --> 00:05:22.410 Lara Flint: So it's very interesting. It's very relevant. And the thing about nobody is using it or the claim that nobody is using it. I think what's more often happening is that people are using it, they may just not recognize that what they're using is government information. 31 00:05:25.980 --> 00:05:28.500 Lara Flint: So here's some visuals to I've got a couple of slides of 32 00:05:29.580 --> 00:05:50.820 Lara Flint: fun thing to illustrate that it really isn't boring. You have beautiful art work going on. You have fonts and styles and graphic design that you can analyze and consider you'd have the famous CDC comic book on preparedness for the zombie pandemic. 33 00:05:51.990 --> 00:05:54.330 Lara Flint: You've got photos from space. 34 00:05:55.350 --> 00:06:01.560 Lara Flint: publications and other languages. I don't know if you notice this ice cream sundae one that's kind of personal to me. 35 00:06:01.890 --> 00:06:09.600 Lara Flint: I came across that when I was working in a depository library myself and sort of what is this. Oh, this is a pamphlet from the government about breastfeeding. 36 00:06:10.050 --> 00:06:16.110 Lara Flint: And they have a whole series of them, you know, dandelions and ice cream and you know it was a little bit startling 37 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:27.810 Lara Flint: was certainly not boring and it actually got me going on, you know, well this is I'm going to digitize the poster collection and get that out there, so everybody can see all these which I did, which was very satisfying. 38 00:06:30.840 --> 00:06:44.820 Lara Flint: I'm also very fond of nautical charts. So if that's what you have there. And if you look closely at the tiny print you see things like unexploded rockets local magnetic disturbance. Oh, here's a dump site, you know. It's all completely fascinating. 39 00:06:45.930 --> 00:06:52.710 Lara Flint: One of our favorites in the office is this instructor guide to combat skiing, you know, which is funny and practical 40 00:06:53.730 --> 00:07:02.490 Lara Flint: And this 1870 census Atlas on the top right, there's an illustration from that and I threw that in there to show that you know early on, you had 41 00:07:03.750 --> 00:07:14.790 Lara Flint: Data visualization. This was very similar to a sort of tree map data visualizations visualizations that you'll see now, but they were way ahead of the game. They were doing it in 1870 by hand, you know, and these beautiful colors. 42 00:07:15.840 --> 00:07:28.260 Lara Flint: And I'm also kind of fond of on the bottom right. The Encyclopedia of ethical failure. It's a, you know, true stories document of bad things that people working in the government did. So it's interesting reading. 43 00:07:32.610 --> 00:07:36.600 Lara Flint: If we start talking. Then about, okay, nobody's using it. 44 00:07:37.740 --> 00:07:47.910 Lara Flint: I don't believe that either. These are some examples of real life reference questions that came from Doc, Doc, l the listserv. So you have things like 45 00:07:48.900 --> 00:07:59.100 Lara Flint: People are looking for truck tonnage data for 1947 or for defense spending by US state for a certain range of time or for import duty and Tara 46 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.400 Lara Flint: On automobiles that are imported 47 00:08:03.660 --> 00:08:14.970 Lara Flint: Those top three actually all you've got, answered and the screenshots or, you know, from the publications or websites where the answer was found. So the Interstate Commerce Commission. The census. 48 00:08:16.740 --> 00:08:19.890 Lara Flint: And I can't remember the agency and I can't see their logo there but 49 00:08:20.970 --> 00:08:26.160 Lara Flint: There was a government agency that had the exact information about automobile imports terrorists. 50 00:08:27.780 --> 00:08:36.000 Lara Flint: Now the last one I put as a segue into the next bit. So someone was looking for. Truman Capote his testimony before the Senate Committee on the judiciary. 51 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:45.840 Lara Flint: Definitely government information. There was a lot of back and forth. People were following a lot of leads as I remember how it ended it was that this was probably something that's unpublished 52 00:08:47.130 --> 00:08:50.760 Lara Flint: So I bring that up because it leads into that mess of everything is online. 53 00:08:52.080 --> 00:09:02.850 Lara Flint: A lot of stuff is online for sure a lot of government information is online but not everything as we just heard, not everything is free when it is available online. 54 00:09:04.230 --> 00:09:11.610 Lara Flint: And again, even if it is available online. Can you find it. Can you find it easily. Can your patron find it. 55 00:09:12.750 --> 00:09:18.840 Lara Flint: It really can take an expert and librarians government information librarian really are expert at 56 00:09:19.590 --> 00:09:26.580 Lara Flint: filtering through potential barriers like the ones that are listed on the slide about, you know, can you make sense of it. Can you use the online interface. 57 00:09:27.150 --> 00:09:37.410 Lara Flint: And also about getting to the correct source evaluating does it contain reliable information is this actually the information that the user is looking for 58 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:53.190 Lara Flint: So some other things. I asked around our office, you know, what are some examples of things that aren't online and some things that came up for publications from agencies that are what we call dead agencies agencies that are 59 00:09:54.570 --> 00:09:57.090 Lara Flint: No longer current you know where their publications and 60 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.790 Lara Flint: Some soil surveys, you know, most of them are online but a couple of them aren't. 61 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:11.640 Lara Flint: Things that are superseded like posters and pamphlets and things of that ilk come up frequently people will be looking for. Well, I want to see. 62 00:10:11.940 --> 00:10:22.920 Lara Flint: The version that the government published in 1940 and the one they published in 1970 and the one from 1990 and maybe a library kept the one from 1990 but you know the old ones. 63 00:10:23.700 --> 00:10:34.470 Lara Flint: got thrown away may or may not have gotten digitized. So an old court decisions. So we started we started getting a pretty long list but wasn't even all of them. 64 00:10:37.410 --> 00:10:47.310 Lara Flint: And again for the visual. Here are some other things that are not online. I also took a look at the very first monthly catalog of US government publications from January 1895 65 00:10:47.730 --> 00:10:53.370 Lara Flint: And the first publication listed in there was this document alleged cruelty is committed upon our median. 66 00:10:53.910 --> 00:11:00.000 Lara Flint: And I could not find it online. It may be out there. I didn't find it. Same thing with the beach apparatus drill 67 00:11:00.900 --> 00:11:14.610 Lara Flint: And I also highlighted this congressional hearings texts from our gov info site because a lot of times when people are looking for government information and even know that they are looking for government information. Maybe they're looking for a congressional hearing 68 00:11:15.900 --> 00:11:26.190 Lara Flint: But they may not realize that it's very common for it to take two months to two years for hearing to be published, so it can take quite a while for that information to get out there. 69 00:11:26.640 --> 00:11:36.180 Lara Flint: And then also very importantly, the hearing might or might not be published in an online format. It's entirely up to the committee who held the hearing. They decide 70 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:51.690 Lara Flint: Whether the hearing gets published and what format it gets published in. So that's sort of one of the little secrets that a government information librarian or person who loves government information would know, and could help you figure out 71 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:56.010 Lara Flint: And then the last minute. 72 00:11:57.420 --> 00:12:01.680 Lara Flint: Is like government information is intimidating and scary that it's hard to learn 73 00:12:02.850 --> 00:12:04.230 Lara Flint: There is a lot to learn. 74 00:12:05.310 --> 00:12:15.660 Lara Flint: But it's like anything else. It just takes practice. And you know just keeping at it and there is a lot of help and expertise available. 75 00:12:17.130 --> 00:12:28.920 Lara Flint: Two of the things I highlighted on this slide in particular where government information online. So that is a really wonderful website where government information librarians answer. 76 00:12:29.520 --> 00:12:41.790 Lara Flint: Questions related to government information. So if you have a question that you can't quite answer. You don't know what to do with it, you've exhausted your resources you can forward it on to their and get help answering it. 77 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:52.260 Lara Flint: And alternatively, if you are a government information expert yourself if you already have learned to love government documents and know a lot about them. You can volunteer for this website and 78 00:12:52.770 --> 00:13:01.530 Lara Flint: Answer the questions that come in there really is nothing like answering a bunch of reference questions to really learn the sources and and get to become an expert. 79 00:13:03.270 --> 00:13:12.870 Lara Flint: Also, it's a really welcoming community. I put these two listserv on there because dot dot L and maps L are both active list serves they concentrate a lot on 80 00:13:13.590 --> 00:13:24.900 Lara Flint: Government Information and they're just very friendly and welcoming and everybody takes up the challenge when a reference question comes up, that you know someone's having trouble with 81 00:13:26.340 --> 00:13:37.170 Lara Flint: So it's, it's a great place. And that's the point. I really want to bring home is that as you're learning about government information if you are finding it scary. Just ask for help. There will always be help 82 00:13:38.100 --> 00:13:51.870 Lara Flint: Available to you and I didn't put them on the slide, I really should have. But the GPO outreach staff Jamie and I and anyone else who works at GPO are also very happy to talk about government information and the FDA LP at any time. 83 00:13:53.490 --> 00:13:58.800 Lara Flint: Okay, I was trying to be super fast and I might have been extra fast, but now I'm going to pass it over to 84 00:13:58.800 --> 00:14:02.280 Lara Flint: Jamie to talk about best practices. 85 00:14:04.050 --> 00:14:04.650 jaime: Thanks, Laura. 86 00:14:05.670 --> 00:14:09.720 jaime: Um, okay. So are you going to share the slides. Or you want me to look 87 00:14:10.890 --> 00:14:15.090 Lara Flint: I just stopped. Okay, well that you can you can be in charge of your own. 88 00:14:16.290 --> 00:14:17.130 jaime: All right. Can you see it. 89 00:14:18.660 --> 00:14:20.580 Lara Flint: Yeah alright so 90 00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:30.540 jaime: What I want to talk about is best practices. So if you're a member of the FDA LP or federal depository library program. 91 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:38.850 jaime: We want you to celebrate your accomplishments. So here you can see some photos of depository library celebrating their anniversaries. 92 00:14:39.570 --> 00:14:48.690 jaime: Their anniversaries as part of the FDA LP, but also for their commitment to providing free access to government information for the community. 93 00:14:49.320 --> 00:15:00.780 jaime: So typically when libraries have a celebration of their depository status or providing access that involve sheet cake. So plenty of sheet cake. Everyone loves food, free food. 94 00:15:01.470 --> 00:15:16.440 jaime: We also do plaques or awards and you can see here in the pictures for libraries that have hit milestones and it's really kind of nice because sometimes GPO staff gets to come out and visit your libraries. When you're celebrating these milestones. 95 00:15:17.550 --> 00:15:21.120 jaime: But libraries can get really creative with how they celebrate 96 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:32.460 jaime: And so I've seen libraries, where they've taken really interesting and important government documents and I'd read passes use of them. And I've also seen one library that actually had a pudgy eagle. 97 00:15:33.090 --> 00:15:41.190 jaime: In for their celebration. So you can get really creative and draw more people into the library to see what kind of information you have. 98 00:15:44.550 --> 00:15:59.940 jaime: So my my number two best practice is to make it fun. So a lot of people as Laura had talked about, think of government information as really boring and scary and intimidating and it doesn't have to be so. 99 00:16:00.660 --> 00:16:13.260 jaime: At the top of the screen. Here you can see the Declaration of Independence, that was created at a maker space and below that is an interactive exhibit on voting, which it's about time to do voting again. 100 00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:27.720 jaime: And on the right you can see a GOV info disrupt now we actually made that at here at GPO and we created it to take on the road to to go to different conferences. So, this particular one we took to Texas and 101 00:16:28.620 --> 00:16:35.310 jaime: The Texas Public Library conference and and did a session on government information with that and it was received pretty well. 102 00:16:35.820 --> 00:16:43.650 jaime: And then on the far right side you have the National Archives of the United States. Coloring Book of patents from 2016 103 00:16:44.190 --> 00:17:00.120 jaime: So what I've heard that libraries like to do with this book is they actually will put it out at academic libraries for in between sessions or during finals, because it's a nice way for students to kind of blow off some steam but kids will like it too. 104 00:17:06.450 --> 00:17:12.270 jaime: So my next tip is to make it relevant. Make sure that your government information is relevant. 105 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:27.780 jaime: So on the left hand side you can see an advertisement for citizenship class so hosting citizen classes is a great way to not only help your community, but to showcase the government information that you have available at your library. 106 00:17:28.830 --> 00:17:35.760 jaime: And in the middle you can see my colleague, Ashley dahlin taking a photo next to a 1940 census poster. 107 00:17:37.170 --> 00:17:47.130 jaime: And so it's census time again that does cemil census so highlight the decennial census in your library and the fact that you can provide help to anyone who's filling that out. 108 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:59.250 jaime: That's a pretty relevant topic. And then on the right hand side, you can see a poster from the movie Hidden Figures. That was a big blockbuster movie on Hidden Figures 109 00:17:59.670 --> 00:18:11.610 jaime: And so this library showcased that movie, but also the NASA information that they had in their collection. So that was a really interesting way to draw attention. 110 00:18:12.270 --> 00:18:19.320 jaime: From people who are passing by. There they see the movie Hidden Figures, and then they see all the NASA publications that this library has 111 00:18:22.110 --> 00:18:31.680 jaime: And this is by far my favorite one. Get sneaky and this is probably not what you would think about when you are thinking of best practices for government information but 112 00:18:32.040 --> 00:18:37.560 jaime: I'm going to explain why getting sneaky is perfect for government information. 113 00:18:38.310 --> 00:18:46.380 jaime: So most of your patrons don't know what a su doc number is or what a government document is and really it's not important that they know that 114 00:18:46.920 --> 00:19:01.980 jaime: What they want is the best information that they can find and government information is authentic and reliable and most cases. So providing access to it is a great source for your patrons. 115 00:19:03.600 --> 00:19:14.280 jaime: So you can add government information to library displays. If somebody in the library is creating a display suggest different government resources that would be good for the display. 116 00:19:14.730 --> 00:19:22.260 jaime: That way it doesn't have to be a full on government documents display, but you can have some government information inserted into the display. 117 00:19:24.750 --> 00:19:30.510 jaime: Don't forget about library instruction sessions, make sure to include government information. 118 00:19:31.410 --> 00:19:38.100 jaime: To show the variety of resources that your library has and it's a great way to introduce government information. 119 00:19:38.850 --> 00:19:50.250 jaime: And I also want to give you guys a little way that I got sneaky at my library. When I was the coordinator. It was at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and Wilmington, North Carolina. 120 00:19:50.640 --> 00:20:07.740 jaime: And I was the coordinator there. And one of the ways that I got sneaky was I sent out a weekly email that highlighted government information. So I did state and federal and each email I would send out would have a different topic. So one time I sent out an email about 121 00:20:10.080 --> 00:20:19.800 jaime: Coloring Books science coloring books from the federal government and the science teacher or the Science Library and actually came up to me said, we actually have a 122 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.630 jaime: A class that requires this very topic. 123 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:35.850 jaime: I had no idea that that was a topic, but it was a great way to start the conversation with that librarian and other staff members. So they started seeing the different things that were in the collection. 124 00:20:36.030 --> 00:20:44.670 jaime: And it started being a conversation piece and people were becoming more interested in government information. So get sneaky with your government information. 125 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:50.040 jaime: Okay, switching now to training. 126 00:20:51.780 --> 00:20:55.950 jaime: I want to talk a little bit about training other library staff members. 127 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.930 jaime: So if you're if you conduct your training in a fun and interesting way your colleagues will come to love government information just like you do. 128 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:16.770 jaime: And so I want to point out a couple places to get training. So one of the ones that I would recommend is the help. I'm an accidental government information librarian series. They do quite a few 129 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:30.300 jaime: Different webinars and they have them on YouTube. So it's pretty easy to watch the ones that they've had. And then, of course, I have to point out GPUs F DLP Academy which Laura and I help host webinars for that. 130 00:21:31.590 --> 00:21:37.410 jaime: We have a page on the left hand side, where you can see many of our training recordings 131 00:21:38.730 --> 00:21:42.210 jaime: And what I wanted to mention about this is you don't actually have to 132 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:54.750 jaime: recreate your own training GPO is a federal agency so you can actually go and take our presentations and then just alter them. However, 133 00:21:55.260 --> 00:22:14.550 jaime: Would be fitting for your present presentation and then use them. Of course, you can always contact FTP outreach and request training FTP outreach@gpo.gov we do provide training. So that's another way to get in person training if you if you need that. 134 00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:32.010 jaime: Okay, my next tip is promote promote promote. So one of the most important things you can do is to promote your government information and what you have at your library. So people don't know that you have government information they're not going to ask for it. 135 00:22:33.330 --> 00:22:45.600 jaime: And so what you can do is have interesting promotional material that you can hand out. So if you're part of our federal depository library program on the right hand side you can see some of the goodies that you can 136 00:22:46.170 --> 00:23:00.150 jaime: Claim, and you can have sent to your library. And we actually will send those to you for free. So even pay for the shipping. There's no cost. And you can hand out that material to all of your library staff and also your patrons. 137 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:17.790 jaime: Now, if you're not out of the Depository library. I got some goodies for you too. And that's at co dot GPO cuffs on the left hand side of the screen, you can actually go to Pueblo gpo.gov and order some free promotional materials as well that you can hand out at the library. 138 00:23:23.610 --> 00:23:38.460 jaime: Okay, so another big tip. I am a big fan of not reinventing the wheel. If the work has already been done. Try not to redo it. You all have enough work to do. You're wearing so many different hats. So try to help each other out. 139 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:40.770 jaime: So, 140 00:23:42.840 --> 00:23:49.140 jaime: One of the things I can recommend is checking out other libraries social media accounts and blogs 141 00:23:49.470 --> 00:23:58.950 jaime: Or you can check out other displays and a good example for that. On the left hand side is the Minnesota State University of Maine KAOS government documents display Clearinghouse. 142 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:08.700 jaime: I really like this website because people can post the different displays that they've had on various issues such as voting census holidays and civil rights. 143 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:27.120 jaime: And you can see what their display looks like, but they also will give you a list of the documents they use. So when I was a coordinator, I could just go into my collection. I had a fairly large collection find those documents and new documents and I had a head of easily made display. 144 00:24:29.430 --> 00:24:47.910 jaime: Also, another good place is gov doc, l can be a great place to bounce off any ideas from government documents library. And so if you have, you need some help with something or you need some help with promotion or something like that Google Doc gallows. A really great listserv. 145 00:24:49.290 --> 00:25:00.510 jaime: My last tip is to subscribe to agency emails so federal agency often will have emails that they will send out to update people on the information 146 00:25:01.050 --> 00:25:09.750 jaime: That they provide or the services that they provide. And so subscribing to them. You can get some information about their new products and services. 147 00:25:10.050 --> 00:25:19.260 jaime: And also a lot of federal agencies want to partner with with library. So, usually they have some giveaways or information that they make available. 148 00:25:20.280 --> 00:25:25.020 jaime: To libraries. So that can be great to get that material to hand out. 149 00:25:27.180 --> 00:25:34.560 jaime: Okay, so I know we talked really quickly. Um, but is there any questions. 150 00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:48.900 Arlene Weible : I thanks Jamie we there's been a little bit in the chat mostly sharing some of the resources that you you and Laura have talked about, um, 151 00:25:49.980 --> 00:26:01.140 Arlene Weible : Example, Jen. Jen, Kirk asked about go to sources for scan documents and Laura shared a couple suggestions and those links are in in the chat. 152 00:26:02.550 --> 00:26:15.690 Arlene Weible : Jennifer asked about getting pushback on government information is not bias. And I think you might Jennifer mean that it is bias is am I 153 00:26:17.100 --> 00:26:24.690 Arlene Weible : reading that correctly. I mean the the notion of addressing bias in government information, I guess, is really the question. 154 00:26:24.870 --> 00:26:35.340 Arlene Weible : Yes. Okay. So Jamie or Laura, do you have anything to suggest when asked about that question. 155 00:26:41.340 --> 00:26:42.570 Arlene Weible : Laura, you need to unmute 156 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.930 Lara Flint: Thank you. You could tell I was talking away with the video, um, 157 00:26:50.790 --> 00:26:52.980 Lara Flint: So yeah, I think basically the 158 00:26:54.030 --> 00:27:04.890 Lara Flint: The answer here is the same as the answer for anything. Is that the person has to take on the responsibility ultimately I'm evaluating the information themselves whether it's government information or 159 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:12.420 Lara Flint: A book in your library, written by an author, you know, you have to take it examine it. Look at it. 160 00:27:13.830 --> 00:27:35.220 Lara Flint: But I guess the only other thing to maybe mention is that government is very long term. So, and government is publishing things for the long term. So it's not necessarily always about who's an office. It's about it is frequently about data and the mission of the agency and that just continues. 161 00:27:40.350 --> 00:27:41.040 jaime: I agree. 162 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:53.580 Arlene Weible : Um, thanks. Suzanne also makes a comment about not being allowed to send out information about documents because they are too political 163 00:27:57.360 --> 00:28:04.410 Lara Flint: So who I mean who would be not allowing the information to be sent out. I'm not sure I'm following the question. 164 00:28:06.360 --> 00:28:07.680 Arlene Weible : Now, Suzanne. Do you want to 165 00:28:09.450 --> 00:28:11.790 Arlene Weible : Maybe provide an example. 166 00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:18.210 Arlene Weible : Okay, she said a supervisor is is suggesting, not to promote 167 00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:22.920 Arlene Weible : Maybe certain types of government information because it's viewed as political 168 00:28:24.270 --> 00:28:25.380 jaime: Like some material. 169 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:26.970 Lara Flint: Congress is 170 00:28:27.030 --> 00:28:29.370 jaime: Is obviously, there might be a political spin 171 00:28:29.370 --> 00:28:30.240 jaime: To it, but 172 00:28:32.610 --> 00:28:37.320 jaime: It's just as Laura said, you know, you got to evaluate every piece. 173 00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:50.970 Arlene Weible : Yeah, I do think there. There was a time when we used to promote government information as unbiased and and that kind of thing. And I'm not saying that. 174 00:28:51.270 --> 00:29:03.270 Arlene Weible : Everything is bias, but I think we're in a climate now where I think that is one thing that government information specialist do need to take pretty seriously is thinking about those issues. 175 00:29:03.600 --> 00:29:12.960 Arlene Weible : Within within the things that are published. And so I do think that is an important thing to consider as you are doing promotion. 176 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.540 Arlene Weible : Yes. 177 00:29:18.840 --> 00:29:26.640 Arlene Weible : And Amy is sharing a suggestion about how she addresses it and information literacy classes. 178 00:29:30.690 --> 00:29:49.770 Arlene Weible : And I think, yeah, it gets back to putting things into context. And, you know, and just using you know examples that that demonstrate yeah there is there is bias. It's a real teaching moment when you're in those kinds of situations with information literacy for sure. 179 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:04.410 Lara Flint: It can be fun to to go back and look at historic documents and see if you can compare and contrast, if you think there was a bias them. 180 00:30:11.220 --> 00:30:12.990 jaime: Is the government has 181 00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:14.700 jaime: provides information on 182 00:30:14.730 --> 00:30:22.800 jaime: Everything. So it would be hard not to find something from a government agency, there's so much information out there. 183 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:36.660 Arlene Weible : Okay well we're at the end of our session. So I want to thank our presenters Lauren Jamie for sharing some great looking documents and 184 00:30:37.410 --> 00:30:55.140 Arlene Weible : You know, we've got some great links in the chat for people to follow up on. So thank you very much. And we'll go ahead and wind this session down, but we will start up again in 15 minutes with our next session, which is 185 00:30:56.520 --> 00:31:09.270 Arlene Weible : This traveling exhibit is a disaster. So this is, I think, a good to follow up to our session right now. So please stay tuned and we'll be back in about 15 minutes. Thank you.