WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:14.759 Shane Wallace: Hello everyone and welcome back. Hopefully you can hear me. 2 00:00:16.710 --> 00:00:25.320 Shane Wallace: My name is Shane Wallace and I'm at the University of Utah and I have the honor of being the, the host for the next quick session here. 3 00:00:26.880 --> 00:00:32.910 Shane Wallace: Tom Adam Mitch is going to be speaking to us all about fraternal organizations and veterans programs. 4 00:00:34.470 --> 00:00:45.930 Shane Wallace: I'll be watching chat and what we think we would like to do is have everyone submit their questions as they go and then Tom will answer them as best he can all at once at the end that works. 5 00:00:46.710 --> 00:00:57.570 Shane Wallace: So without any further ado. This session is only half hour long so here is Tom. Tom, you can take off and everyone 6 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:08.310 Shane Wallace: Oh, 7 00:01:08.970 --> 00:01:09.780 Tom Adamich: Hello, Shane. 8 00:01:10.050 --> 00:01:18.240 Tom Adamich: There. Yeah. Hello everyone. My name is Tom an image, and I look forward to talking with you about veterans organization, the 9 00:01:19.020 --> 00:01:38.790 Tom Adamich: Relationship between veterans programs and fraternal organizations and the role of libraries can play in that relationship and I really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you this is my second contribution to western states. My first one was indirect I work with Suzanne Carroll 10 00:01:40.440 --> 00:01:51.390 Tom Adamich: Several years ago to talk about a group that I've been involved in and go door of the government information for children group, which I'll mention again briefly in a moment, but 11 00:01:52.800 --> 00:01:59.760 Tom Adamich: It's a privilege to be here and I look forward to talking with all of you. Next slide please. 12 00:02:03.660 --> 00:02:08.040 Tom Adamich: This is kind of our agenda of what we'll talk about today. Again, I wanted to kind of give you 13 00:02:09.300 --> 00:02:21.180 Tom Adamich: An overview of what libraries can do I working with veterans services and particularly in the context of fraternal organizations and and those 14 00:02:21.810 --> 00:02:30.810 Tom Adamich: groups that are usually in almost every community, large and small, across the United States. So I think some of the 15 00:02:31.290 --> 00:02:44.910 Tom Adamich: Content will be of interest and hopefully identify some relationships you already have in your communities will look at several use cases. As you can see, the first one will be the 16 00:02:46.170 --> 00:02:58.290 Tom Adamich: Benevolent and protective order of Elks and and their work with veterans and we'll also look at a project that a rotary club in a small town in Ohio. 17 00:02:58.860 --> 00:03:09.510 Tom Adamich: Worked on to honor veterans and and the role is a library played there. And then the last use case will be associated with 18 00:03:10.380 --> 00:03:22.650 Tom Adamich: The Library of Congress veteran history project and how successful it is in Illinois, and we'll talk about that particular project. 19 00:03:23.370 --> 00:03:40.620 Tom Adamich: And again, we'll look at some best practices and hopefully have enough time for any questions that you have and comments so that we can definitely encourage your inquiry and and hear about some of the good things that you're doing possibly so 20 00:03:41.730 --> 00:03:43.920 Tom Adamich: Without further ado, next slide please. 21 00:03:51.240 --> 00:04:06.540 Tom Adamich: I am in introduction of myself. And what I've been doing. I've been working and in the field of librarianship since 1992 and had the pleasure of serving as the government documents library and it's several institutions. 22 00:04:08.700 --> 00:04:14.670 Tom Adamich: Had some great involvement and go to art over the years and and was able to work on. 23 00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:26.070 Tom Adamich: Putting together, the government information for children committee and glad that it's still moving forward and doing great things so 24 00:04:27.450 --> 00:04:34.470 Tom Adamich: And I currently work at a community college setting. And so during a lot of community work. 25 00:04:35.490 --> 00:04:47.610 Tom Adamich: Excited to be kind of in a new area I been writing for a long time, but I been asked to write a local history column for paper or local paper. So that's been kind of fun and 26 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:58.260 Tom Adamich: Gives you a good sense of what's going on in the community and perspective of what happened in the past. So, next slide please. 27 00:05:01.320 --> 00:05:15.870 Tom Adamich: When talking about fraternal organizations and veterans programs and what veterans are doing there. There's so many different aspects of of what veterans need to have as far as 28 00:05:16.770 --> 00:05:33.030 Tom Adamich: Support for their ability to if they're newly discharged. They're coming back in the community if they're trying to deal with some challenges and what some of the support 29 00:05:33.900 --> 00:05:49.470 Tom Adamich: Functions are that are important to them. And that's where libraries can be a really good partner and a really good intermediary for a lot of the activities that that 30 00:05:49.920 --> 00:06:05.280 Tom Adamich: Local fraternal organizations often undertake to help veterans and hopefully what we'll talk about, again, are some of these use cases. And you can see how the library has contributed to them successfully and then 31 00:06:06.210 --> 00:06:20.100 Tom Adamich: Again, it might prompt you to think of some some possible connections in your own community or again, hopefully, we have some time to share some of your success stories as well. Next slide please. 32 00:06:22.950 --> 00:06:25.050 Tom Adamich: Again, there are many 33 00:06:26.490 --> 00:06:34.500 Tom Adamich: fraternal organizations that are in every community and they're doing great works. And again, 34 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.460 Tom Adamich: We'll be looking at them. Next slide please. 35 00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:48.930 Tom Adamich: The banana one protective order of Elks has been committed to veterans services for a number of years and 36 00:06:49.620 --> 00:07:08.100 Tom Adamich: I think their pledge here says it all. So long as they're veterans, the BP. Oh, he will never forget them. I've been a proud member for 34 years and I can say that it's been a privilege to be involved in a lot of their, their projects and 37 00:07:09.270 --> 00:07:10.710 Tom Adamich: This being one of them as well. 38 00:07:11.760 --> 00:07:12.480 Tom Adamich: Next slide please. 39 00:07:16.410 --> 00:07:24.930 Tom Adamich: Information. If there's a wealth of information available on the Alex veterans website. And of course, this 40 00:07:26.610 --> 00:07:28.530 Tom Adamich: presentation will be available to you. 41 00:07:30.270 --> 00:07:40.380 Tom Adamich: Later following it and and Shane can talk more about that at times as we transition here at the appropriate time. Next slide please. 42 00:07:43.350 --> 00:07:57.330 Tom Adamich: This is just an overview of some of the BP. OH, EASE programs, the adoptive veteran is designed to help veterans who may be lonely or have little family, especially as they're nursing homes or or 43 00:07:57.930 --> 00:08:14.100 Tom Adamich: VA facilities and communities reach out to them and adopt them provide some funding to support some of that outreach freedom grants are for individuals who are involved in 44 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:24.660 Tom Adamich: Supporting veterans programs in a community and that the Alex helps to support that and and provide some funding. 45 00:08:26.130 --> 00:08:36.330 Tom Adamich: Assistance for those programs. So again, the library can be a great advocate at for promoting and talking about these things. 46 00:08:37.230 --> 00:09:01.530 Tom Adamich: To patrons and and to others in the community, the VA voluntary service is they were groups of volunteers. The gang go into facilities or nursing homes and reach out to veterans and and it may be again as that Fraternal Order that got group structure. 47 00:09:02.670 --> 00:09:15.870 Tom Adamich: Comes into play there. The Veterans leather as an interesting one. It's designed primarily to help disabled veterans who may be in wheelchairs and and this wonderful little project helps 48 00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:24.060 Tom Adamich: To create and make the gloves that they often use if if someone's wheelchair bound and only is 49 00:09:25.470 --> 00:09:26.280 Tom Adamich: Mobile 50 00:09:27.300 --> 00:09:28.770 Tom Adamich: Using their arms so 51 00:09:29.910 --> 00:09:47.880 Tom Adamich: Just a really nice thing to do. And of course the welcome home is probably one that people might be most able to contribute to even if you're not an L member, or if you're not, but from a community perspective on it provides a simulation. 52 00:09:49.440 --> 00:10:12.210 Tom Adamich: Materials such as cleaning supplies pots and pans some simple furniture for people who may be just coming back and are assimilating back into the community, so it's it's a good way to help and provide some immediate need satisfied media need for those individuals. Next slide please. 53 00:10:14.130 --> 00:10:23.610 Tom Adamich: Mary Morgan is a wonderful person and she has graciously allowed me to share her contact information with you and she's at the national office in Chicago. 54 00:10:23.940 --> 00:10:41.730 Tom Adamich: So feel free to reach out to her. If you have questions or would like to obtain. They do have some print materials and she could kind of course guide you through the website, even more so feel free to reach out to her and use her as a resource. Next slide please. 55 00:10:43.980 --> 00:11:00.600 Tom Adamich: This next use case is long that I'm particularly proud of learning about. It's a wonderful little project and a small town in southeast, Ohio, probably about 70 miles from Columbus. 56 00:11:02.220 --> 00:11:06.900 Tom Adamich: As far as the geography goes this community. 57 00:11:08.220 --> 00:11:30.390 Tom Adamich: It is a rotary club and it's called the molten McConnell's Ville Rotary Club and they created this veterans walk project in cooperation with the library and the library is named the Morgan County Caitlin since and library. And so it's a it's a 58 00:11:31.560 --> 00:11:35.460 Tom Adamich: Small Community area rural very 59 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:44.790 Tom Adamich: close knit, but the library is a very important part of the the regional area. Next slide please. 60 00:11:46.680 --> 00:11:52.410 Tom Adamich: And what they did was they work to create a walk of honor. 61 00:11:53.700 --> 00:11:59.370 Tom Adamich: And it was part of a renovation project for the library. So they made sure that the 62 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:08.580 Tom Adamich: Walk of honor has a a dominant spot in the library footprint. So each $50 brick. 63 00:12:09.660 --> 00:12:22.020 Tom Adamich: Allows people to be honored the through their identification information and then they have also have a 64 00:12:23.490 --> 00:12:32.520 Tom Adamich: sitting area and and the landscaped area around the block of honor to to honor the veterans with the flags and 65 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:44.160 Tom Adamich: The Army Air Force Marines Coast Guard Navy and Merchant Marine flags are represented here. Next slide please. 66 00:12:45.900 --> 00:12:47.940 Tom Adamich: This is a really good kind of a 67 00:12:49.110 --> 00:12:54.900 Tom Adamich: View of the walk and how the marble. 68 00:12:57.150 --> 00:13:05.520 Tom Adamich: Bench. There is integrated and it's just really a wonderful man by the name of Dr. Robert Richmond. 69 00:13:07.260 --> 00:13:15.600 Tom Adamich: kindly gave me this information. He is a veterinarian in the area at 90 years young, he's still involved in this. 70 00:13:15.870 --> 00:13:37.800 Tom Adamich: And. And what's very detailed about the information that he gave me, which I really appreciate it. And it was just such a nice conversation that I had with him, and it really shows how people can can really come together and do neat things and of course the library board and the library. 71 00:13:39.270 --> 00:13:43.980 Tom Adamich: Fully supported this and it's benefiting from it. Next slide please. 72 00:13:45.180 --> 00:13:51.750 Tom Adamich: Here's a shot of the flags and kind of gives you a sense of, of where this is in relationship. 73 00:13:52.710 --> 00:14:11.910 Tom Adamich: To the, to the walk of honor and what they're doing so far. And as you see, there's a lot of room for for development there. So as time goes on, and people become it's still relatively new, so hopefully it will grow and develop over time. Next slide please. 74 00:14:13.710 --> 00:14:28.650 Tom Adamich: Again, this is kind of a closer view. And you can see where they're trying to get people situated near their branch of service and so that that's really a great thing to do. Next slide please. 75 00:14:30.270 --> 00:14:38.220 Tom Adamich: Again, another shot and and showing in relationship to all of the infrastructure. Next slide please. 76 00:14:40.230 --> 00:14:48.630 Tom Adamich: And this is another view of the library and its relationship to the building and the the 77 00:14:50.010 --> 00:14:53.160 Tom Adamich: Structure around it. Next slide please. 78 00:14:54.960 --> 00:15:16.530 Tom Adamich: And again give you another kind of a panoramic view there. I really great project in a town that really relies on its library and it's very, very supportive of it. And again, this serves a rural area too, so it's it's kind of a more of a regional facility. Next slide please. 79 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:25.470 Tom Adamich: The next project is the Library of Congress Veterans History Project and 80 00:15:26.730 --> 00:15:36.660 Tom Adamich: individual by the name of Jill Layton who serves as Illinois court reporter also as a member of the American Legion auxiliary 81 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:51.900 Tom Adamich: And of course they are partners with the American Legion to honor veterans and of all wars and conflicts, who have served and she's also the chair of the Illinois court reporters Association. 82 00:15:53.070 --> 00:16:02.190 Tom Adamich: This Veterans History Project that they've developed so again to to for eternal groups that are working together so 83 00:16:02.730 --> 00:16:11.520 Tom Adamich: In partnership and I think that's another thing so that it's not necessarily just limited to one organization. There may be multiple ones involved. 84 00:16:11.880 --> 00:16:29.280 Tom Adamich: And and how that can strengthen a project like this. And of course, the beauty of this one is it's directly related and utilizing the infrastructure associated with the Library of Congress Veterans History Project, and we'll talk a little bit more about that and then 85 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:49.110 Tom Adamich: The course the mission of the project is to collect preserve and provide access to personal accounts of American War veterans and and those can be then utilized in the future. Next slide please. 86 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:52.500 Tom Adamich: The 87 00:16:53.910 --> 00:17:07.260 Tom Adamich: Other partner major partner in their project, of course, is another library organization, the state library of Illinois and they help to facilitate in and assist with the 88 00:17:08.790 --> 00:17:17.610 Tom Adamich: videography, and if there's that portion of the of the oral history associated and 89 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:25.410 Tom Adamich: As you can see they've worked on over 300 projects for 90 00:17:26.940 --> 00:17:36.540 Tom Adamich: Capturing veterans stories. There have been 300 interviews and projects associated with that and 91 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:53.550 Tom Adamich: I think of when you have access to the slide deck here later. I encourage you to explore these links and and and look at the news stories and things that that really talk about the good work that they've done. Next slide please. 92 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.360 Tom Adamich: Of course, the library Congress Veterans History Project was a 93 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:02.700 Tom Adamich: Public Law. 94 00:18:05.250 --> 00:18:14.550 Tom Adamich: Act that was instituted back in 2000 and it involves being able to 95 00:18:16.020 --> 00:18:24.780 Tom Adamich: Allow this type of work to move forward. And it also was supported later by legislation to 96 00:18:25.800 --> 00:18:28.710 Tom Adamich: Allow the inclusion of gold star family. 97 00:18:30.450 --> 00:18:34.200 Tom Adamich: Contributions, for those of you that may not be familiar with gold star. 98 00:18:35.340 --> 00:18:41.550 Tom Adamich: They are individuals who are members of the families who 99 00:18:43.380 --> 00:18:55.920 Tom Adamich: Are part of and and and associated with veterans and in many cases, due to the unfortunate loss of the individual. 100 00:18:57.210 --> 00:19:18.810 Tom Adamich: They may be the only source of information about that individuals history. So it's good to know that they can be part of this narrative and that they can be supported and and and and encouraged to contribute the information honoring their, their loved one. Next slide please. 101 00:19:20.850 --> 00:19:39.870 Tom Adamich: This is just. And this slide in the next few slides are just a little bit of an overview of what the Veterans History Project database looks like and and what happens when the product of these interviews is then uploaded and and and it gives you a sense of what's available there. 102 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:50.280 Tom Adamich: As you can see, there's the ability to search and and ability to limit searches by branch or or gender or 103 00:19:51.240 --> 00:20:07.740 Tom Adamich: Or what you're looking for. If we're looking for a video oral history or looking for particular photograph. This is gives you the opportunity to see how its presented and can be searched. Next slide please. 104 00:20:09.990 --> 00:20:23.310 Tom Adamich: This is one of the entries and as you can see, it gives detailed information about the individual where they were their provenance as far as where they were in the service and then 105 00:20:24.540 --> 00:20:26.910 Tom Adamich: Their rank. Next slide please. 106 00:20:28.290 --> 00:20:36.420 Tom Adamich: Again, here's another view and and shows how the database indicates 107 00:20:37.650 --> 00:20:45.720 Tom Adamich: Whether there is a particular format or type of material associated with it. 108 00:20:46.800 --> 00:20:55.830 Tom Adamich: As you can see there are, this one has transcripts and a sound recording. So it was an audio oral history. Next slide please. 109 00:20:58.140 --> 00:21:01.350 Tom Adamich: And then of course there are some that have other 110 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:06.000 Tom Adamich: Media, whether it be video or 111 00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:08.040 Tom Adamich: Or photos. 112 00:21:09.180 --> 00:21:18.150 Tom Adamich: Associated with the entry and again it shows, as I mentioned, where the person served and what they did and 113 00:21:19.290 --> 00:21:19.680 Tom Adamich: Which 114 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:24.780 Tom Adamich: War or conflict. They were involved in. Next slide please. 115 00:21:27.870 --> 00:21:32.160 Tom Adamich: And once again, here's another another individuals entry. 116 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:34.140 Tom Adamich: Next slide please. 117 00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:42.270 Tom Adamich: As we look and reflect upon some of the information that I've shared with you. 118 00:21:43.290 --> 00:21:50.580 Tom Adamich: Some best practices and some guidelines kind of come to mind and 119 00:21:51.780 --> 00:21:54.330 Tom Adamich: One of the things that libraries can 120 00:21:55.410 --> 00:22:08.190 Tom Adamich: Understand is really what organizations are available to them. And again, fraternal organizations are often only identify often identified in communities, of course, the a la 121 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:14.940 Tom Adamich: Has some some resources for you as well. Next slide please. 122 00:22:16.560 --> 00:22:18.990 Tom Adamich: And one of the 123 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:30.420 Tom Adamich: Best resources that you can use in addition to either the local ones or our professional organization is the 124 00:22:31.830 --> 00:22:36.420 Tom Adamich: County veteran service organization and and I often 125 00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:56.070 Tom Adamich: Point people here first, because the CV, so is a kind of a clearinghouse for being able to identify either groups that are working with veterans or projects that are working with veterans in a particular geographical area and 126 00:22:56.790 --> 00:23:03.120 Tom Adamich: The links and and video that are provided here. The video link are 127 00:23:04.410 --> 00:23:17.100 Tom Adamich: Good overviews of what the CBS. So does and how it can be a really good resource and and and maybe first place to start. 128 00:23:17.820 --> 00:23:28.830 Tom Adamich: If information is needed. And again, not just programming information or or outreach information, but also some information about 129 00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:41.280 Tom Adamich: Some of those needs that I mentioned, you know, people who are simulating back in the community or people who need help with veterans benefits or things like that. Next slide please. 130 00:23:43.140 --> 00:23:44.460 Tom Adamich: And again, the 131 00:23:46.230 --> 00:23:54.690 Tom Adamich: fraternal organizations, our own professional organization, the LA has a wonderful veterans caucus that is open to everyone. 132 00:23:55.110 --> 00:24:07.530 Tom Adamich: And and looking for members and people who are interested in talking and helping with veterans causes as librarians and and how we can support each other and support our 133 00:24:07.830 --> 00:24:23.040 Tom Adamich: Our efforts in our communities. So I'd encourage you to reach out to and Sarah mirror is the founder of that organization, she's written several books on that topic and she's a really good resource and an expert on 134 00:24:24.090 --> 00:24:24.900 Tom Adamich: Next slide please. 135 00:24:28.260 --> 00:24:49.290 Tom Adamich: These are other organizations that are local and regional ones that that may be of use to you again and I encourage you to explore these links as, as you have time to sit down and look more at the deck and then it'll give you some good information that you can use. 136 00:24:50.430 --> 00:24:51.270 Tom Adamich: Next slide please. 137 00:24:54.420 --> 00:25:15.750 Tom Adamich: As I mentioned, there are also other projects nationwide. One of the best ones is the veterans connect at the library, the California project that has done some really good good works and and interesting things. So really connect with veterans and guide libraries. 138 00:25:17.070 --> 00:25:19.980 Tom Adamich: To work together and and 139 00:25:21.780 --> 00:25:26.640 Tom Adamich: The article link also provide some good background and some things that have been done. 140 00:25:28.110 --> 00:25:29.040 Tom Adamich: Next slide please. 141 00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:44.760 Tom Adamich: Again, this is my, you can always reach out to me. I'm happy to help you if you have questions, and this is my work contact. I also have my other contact information. Next slide please. 142 00:25:50.940 --> 00:26:02.130 Tom Adamich: That this is my visiting library and service and I can certainly you can reach me through that as well. I guess we're I'm reaching the time. Next slide please. For questions. 143 00:26:11.520 --> 00:26:18.450 Shane Wallace: So as I'm looking now, Tom. I don't see any questions in there yet. We only have a couple minutes left. 144 00:26:20.250 --> 00:26:32.220 Shane Wallace: I'm wondering personally what your experience has been with these organizations performing outreach to the library or most of these been initiated by the librarians contacting 145 00:26:32.700 --> 00:26:46.530 Shane Wallace: The various fraternal organizations or is it just kind of a case by case basis. I'm just thinking about in terms of best practice. Should we encourage librarians to cold call their local Elks is that kind of do you think what you would recommend is the best path. 146 00:26:47.820 --> 00:26:50.100 Tom Adamich: Oh, most definitely. I think there again. 147 00:26:51.210 --> 00:26:59.280 Tom Adamich: Being able to offer what we can help with or support or or be able to facilitate, you know, provide meeting space provide 148 00:27:00.570 --> 00:27:07.920 Tom Adamich: Interesting opportunities for partnership. I think that would definitely be encouraged and appropriate 149 00:27:08.370 --> 00:27:25.530 Tom Adamich: And also to be able to understand how best to to help identify and really figure out what you are trying to help them do or what you'd like to partner with them on again. 150 00:27:26.010 --> 00:27:42.090 Tom Adamich: It really provides some so and. And again, feel free to reach out to me. I'm happy to answer your questions and and if I can refer you to anyone, I can certainly I've had the pleasure of meeting some really wonderful people who are very passionate about this work. 151 00:27:43.530 --> 00:27:51.810 Tom Adamich: And again, yes, definitely reach out to those people at the state level. 152 00:27:52.530 --> 00:28:13.380 Tom Adamich: And and again they can certainly help you that that Illinois project is a great example of how the state organizational structure helped make that successful because the video for those oral histories originated from the state library that they helped facilitate that. So, 153 00:28:15.060 --> 00:28:15.450 Tom Adamich: Yes. 154 00:28:16.260 --> 00:28:27.360 Shane Wallace: Excellent. So yeah, some I had someone echo that same question I asked, just so you know, Tom. The reason I reverse the slides is someone was asking for your contact information. 155 00:28:28.620 --> 00:28:29.580 Tom Adamich: There's happy to help. 156 00:28:30.270 --> 00:28:31.890 Shane Wallace: There's also a comment here. 157 00:28:33.570 --> 00:28:50.340 Shane Wallace: That says if you are plugged into state humanities councils and return. Researchers think about what your library can offer to people seeking or administering NEH dialogues on the experience of war grants. So these are NIH grants. There's a list of awards providing the link there. 158 00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:59.610 Shane Wallace: But it's ways of connecting to the library to this potential resource. So that's a useful tool for everybody else to take a look at to 159 00:29:00.840 --> 00:29:18.270 Tom Adamich: Definitely because funding does exist and and whether it be through again NIH or or other organizations that in fact the CV. So the national organization that I showed you that slide. They have grants and and funding opportunities so 160 00:29:20.850 --> 00:29:27.300 Shane Wallace: Excellent. And also, just as a side note, I've noticed with my own experience with fraternal organizations, they will often have 161 00:29:27.810 --> 00:29:43.380 Shane Wallace: Their own internal potential funding streams their own grants and projects that they can eternally solicit say within the Elks, for example, they may be able to apply for a grant with to the larger organization to support a local project with the library to 162 00:29:44.130 --> 00:29:47.580 Tom Adamich: Definitely, definitely, and they are very 163 00:29:50.220 --> 00:29:55.830 Tom Adamich: Able to help with that or and and actively looking for those partners. So, there again. 164 00:29:57.330 --> 00:29:58.770 Tom Adamich: Feel free to reach out to them. 165 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.200 Shane Wallace: Well, very good. Anyone else have any other questions for the chat. 166 00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:18.480 Shane Wallace: Well, Tom, you time to that to absolute military perfection set right there. So it's appropriate. 167 00:30:19.230 --> 00:30:19.890 Tom Adamich: I'm here. 168 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:21.510 Shane Wallace: When you're talking about veterans issues. 169 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:24.300 Shane Wallace: I do thank you for your time. 170 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:34.770 Shane Wallace: I will be muting myself, presumably will be handing back over to someone else to talk about the break coming up, but one more time, Tom. Thank you very much for your time. 171 00:30:35.580 --> 00:30:44.940 Shane Wallace: And your content to address one thing that you mentioned early on. Yes, the slides will be available as well as the recording are all available. So there's links, I believe. 172 00:30:46.230 --> 00:30:55.920 Shane Wallace: Will just be on the the conference website and also there was information in that last email but look for it. Also in the rapid female. So all of that will be available. 173 00:30:57.540 --> 00:31:01.980 Shane Wallace: And I will see my screen control.